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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting widescreen forever: Quote:
I read somewhere that the Apollo 11 landing on the Moon in 1969 had 50 % less computer hardware/software than your present day Car ..
Guess they wouldn't be impresed with that type of knowledge now or would they?? That's right. If they built that computer today, it would be about the size of a pack of cigarettes. The first computer I ever had was a TI99-4A (early 80's), and it had more horsepower than the ones NASA used for the moon shots. | | | John
"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice!" Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting GSyren: Quote:
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If you ever ask someone for their favourite film, you know to end the conversation when they say "Spider-Man 3".
I didn't dare ask what my colleague's favorite film was. I know he loved Lord of the Rings, so I guess there might be some hope. But it's probably just because of the great effects...
I do know that he's all fired up about the new Transformers movie and intends to go see it on opening night. Personally I don't hold my breath when it comes to that one. From the team that gave us Pearl Harbor and Armageddon... not exactly a glowing recommendation in my book. The Rock had its moments, though, I'll admit that.
Speaking of Pearl Harbor - I'd take Tora! Tora! Tora! and day over Pearl Harbor, but I guess my coworker would be bored to tears... 
PS Just to make something clear; I have nothing against good CGI. But it's just another tool in the moviemaker's arsenal. Good CGI in a bad movie might make it somewhat more interesting, but it'll never make it a good movie. If you want to see just how far special effects have come, watch "In Harm's Way", one of the great Otto Preminger's films, starring John Wayne. Even though it was made nearly 50 years ago using models and dubbed in explosions, the naval battles still hold up and it is still one of the great war films. I have to say also, that anybody who doesn't appreciate the old films and the things they accomplished without computers and all the high tech special effects people take for granted today, doesn't understand and appreciate film as the truly unique art form it really is. | | | John
"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice!" Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964
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| | Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 5,918 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rifter: Quote:
I have to say also, that anybody who doesn't appreciate the old films and the things they accomplished without computers and all the high tech special effects people take for granted today, doesn't understand and appreciate film as the truly unique art form it really is. Agreed. |
|  | JonM | | Registered 28 Dec 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 343 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rifter: Quote:
I have to say also, that anybody who doesn't appreciate the old films and the things they accomplished without computers and all the high tech special effects people take for granted today, doesn't understand and appreciate film as the truly unique art form it really is. Third-ed. CGI is very powerful and given us films that would have been impossible, or impossibly expensive. But I do worry that film-makers use it as a crutch too often. My biggest problem with the Star Wars prequels was the amount of CGI. I felt you could tell the actors were drained by being in front of a green screen almost all the time. At least with the originals there was room for a few cardboard, rattling sets. On the other hand, Lucas's best buddy Steven Spielberg has so far resisted even using digital cameras. I think his CGI work is probably the best because it is never at the expense of the story. Ok, the 'new' scene in E.T. wasn't necessary, but look at Minority Report and War of the Worlds; masses of effects, but the best scenes still centre around the humans. Also, Spielberg is obsessed with detail in sets. As filmmakers get lazy, they'll spend less time detailing a set and more time painting every wall green so they can change it later! The Thing is one of my favourite horrors. You can imagine the effects guys up to their elbows in fake gore and entrails, plastering it all over the set and actors. But if they ever do the threatened remake, no way would they bother with all that. They'll think they can make bigger and better monsters in the computer. | | | Jon
"When Mister Safety Catch Is Not On, Mister Crossbow Is Not Your Friend."
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 793 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting JonM: Quote:
The Thing is one of my favourite horrors. You can imagine the effects guys up to their elbows in fake gore and entrails, plastering it all over the set and actors. But if they ever do the threatened remake, no way would they bother with all that. They'll think they can make bigger and better monsters in the computer. Another example is Slither. The movie itself was just ok, it did keep me entertained though, but they used prosthetics and physical effects and it showed. They do say that most of the practical effects were later replaced by CGI, but at least the actors had something to work with on set, and it shows. They also depleted the national supply of the stuff they use for prosthetics and had to halt production for a month while the supplier made more  |
| | Registered: April 7, 2007 | | Posts: 357 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting JonM: Quote:
If you ever ask someone for their favourite film, you know to end the conversation when they say "Spider-Man 3". That happened last week.  Quoting Alias: Quote:
Her favourite movie of all time ... you ready for this: Pretty Woman
So, I'm sure it's a lot of peoples favourite movie.
Yeah it's mine too congratulations, of all time Well like that includes EVERY OTHER MOVIE EVERY MADE well all of them  | | | | Last edited: by Graveworm |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 413 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rifter: Quote:
The first computer I ever had was a TI99-4A (early 80's), and it had more horsepower than the ones NASA used for the moon shots. I had TI99-4A too. Then I sold it my two cousins and few years later they gave it back to me for free. I still have it (somewhere). Unfortunately the cassette player I used for storage is not functioning anymore. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,136 |
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The first computer I ever had was a TI99-4A (early 80's), and it had more horsepower than the ones NASA used for the moon shots. Wow, I thought I was the only one to buy that  | | | Signature? We don't need no stinking... hang on, this has been done... blast [oooh now in Widescreen]
Ah... well you see.... I thought I'd say something more interesting... but cannot think of anything..... oh well
And to those of you who have disabled viewing of these signature files "hello" (or not) Registered: July 27, 2004 |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 413 |
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The first computer I ever had was a TI99-4A (early 80's), and it had more horsepower than the ones NASA used for the moon shots.
Wow, I thought I was the only one to buy that Is there a TI99-version of DVDP?  |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 793 |
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The first computer I ever had was a TI99-4A (early 80's), and it had more horsepower than the ones NASA used for the moon shots.
Wow, I thought I was the only one to buy that
Is there a TI99-version of DVDP? Let Ken finish the DOS version first.  |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,242 |
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The first computer I ever had was a TI99-4A (early 80's), and it had more horsepower than the ones NASA used for the moon shots.
Wow, I thought I was the only one to buy that
Is there a TI99-version of DVDP?
Let Ken finish the DOS version first. What you mean he's finished the Scope system version?  Steve |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 20,111 |
| | Posted: | | | | I like old films, but a good friend of mine always wants to watch the most obscure, ancient silent films there are...so in those times "I don't like old movies!" | | | | Corey |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 811 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Katatonia: Quote:
I like old films, but a good friend of mine always wants to watch the most obscure, ancient silent films there are...so in those times "I don't like old movies!" Three cheers for obscure, ancient silent films |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,796 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting widescreen forever: Quote:
I read somewhere that the Apollo 11 landing on the Moon in 1969 had 50 % less computer hardware/software than your present day Car ..
Guess they wouldn't be impresed with that type of knowledge now or would they?? May 1965 trough September 1967, Merritt Island, Florida. I was on the team that installed the computer that collected the data for Apollo pre-launch and launch, and its first 15 minutes after launch. That’s the data that the scope dopes are monitoring, you see on TV. I stay there and took over getting the computer through its acceptance tests. After I returned to Phoenix, AZ I took many trips back there for Apollo shots. My first personal computer was a single board computer, data and instruction input in hex via a key pad. Being a pack rat, I still have it someplace. Two of my all time favorite films are “How Green Was My Valley" and “The Third Man” A very wise man once said and I paraphrase, that there were only two types of music, the good and the bad; I guess that could be said of films. I have on DVD and enjoy all types of film, of nationality, and genre and production year. I think that anybody who uses the genre or production year to determine whether a film or music or any art form for that matter is good or bad is a very shallow person. My first computer was a UNIVAC Check it out. | | | We don't need stinkin' IMDB's errors, we make our own.
Ineptocracy, You got to love it.
"Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." - Abraham Lincoln | | | | Last edited: by Srehtims |
| | Registered: May 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,475 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Srehtims: Quote:
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I read somewhere that the Apollo 11 landing on the Moon in 1969 had 50 % less computer hardware/software than your present day Car ..
Guess they wouldn't be impresed with that type of knowledge now or would they??
May 1965 trough September 1967, Merritt Island, Florida.
I was on the team that installed the computer that collected the data for Apollo pre-launch and launch, and its first 15 minutes after launch. That’s the data that the scope dopes are monitoring, you see on TV. I stay there and took over getting the computer through its acceptance tests. After I returned to Phoenix, AZ I took many trips back there for Apollo shots.
My first personal computer was a single board computer, data and instruction input in hex via a key pad.
Being a pack rat, I still have it someplace.
Two of my all time favorite films are “How Green Was My Valley" and “The Third Man”
A very wise man once said and I paraphrase, that there were only two types of music, the good and the bad; I guess that could be said of films. I have on DVD and enjoy all types of film, of nationality, and genre and production year.
I think that anybody who uses the genre or production year to determine whether a film or music or any art form for that matter is good or bad is a very shallow person. Wonderful - thanks for sharing. It brings back memories of my father - he did the analysis of the material brought back from the moon. I have a picture of him next to one of the first computers - it took up the entire room! The data in that room would probably fit in the palm of my hand today!  |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 5,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Srehtims: Quote:
A very wise man once said and I paraphrase, that there were only two types of music, the good and the bad; I guess that could be said of films. I have on DVD and enjoy all types of film, of nationality, and genre and production year.
I think that anybody who uses the genre or production year to determine whether a film or music or any art form for that matter is good or bad is a very shallow person. There are two types of people in the world, those who divide things/people into types, and those who don't.  The problem is, there are bad movies and there are bad movies. There are many bad movies I love to watch, from Plan 9, to Santo flicks, to Manos. Then there are bad movies (because I say so) that I cannot watch: Risky Business, Lost in Translation, anything involving Oliver Stone, etc. There are movies I like to watch, movies I like to rewatch often, and movies that if I have to see them again, I will kill someone. Good & bad isn't enough. My personal taste (and yours) counts more. | | | If it wasn't for bad taste, I wouldn't have no taste at all.
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